church growth

Digital Campus. No. no we are not crazy, stop looking at us like that!

One of the most interesting things I get to see from time to time is what I call the tilt head and look oddly into the distance look when I tell people about Redeemed Point.  Some assume right off the bat that because we are streaming “church” online, and because, at the moment, don’t use pews and a “standard” seating arrangement, that we are some sort of strange radical group or trying to do things in a completely new way. If you get nothing else from this post please at least get this:

THIS IS NOT NEW!

Ok, sorry for shouting.  When the church began some 2000+ years ago it is safe to say that the Internet did not exist.  Nor phones, television, cell phones, twitter, facebook, or even. . get ready . . mass produced books!  The church was successful not because of what or how they did things, but because of WHO they did things for.

Jesus gave us a commission;

Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.

Like the early church we need to go to where the people are.  You and I know people who would never consider stepping foot inside a “church”, yet make contact with them by some online means and you may just have an opportunity to tell them about your faith.

Above all things Tanya’s and my desire it to reach the lost for the Lord.  Tanya does it in her own way, she shares insights of her walk on her own blog (hehe, took me long enough to convince her to start it) while I use podcasting (in the past), blogs, games IE (World of Warcraft) and other geeky and techie things.  Redeemed Point is born out of this.

Imagine if you will a small group of dedicated men and women who seek to do what Christ has called them to do in a local body, not only local but not forgeting Mark 16.  We are going out, and if by chance we can reach just one person, one at all, it is worth it!

So are we crazy?  Yea, don’t you want to be crazy about Jesus as well? :)

(NOTE: Wordpress had eaten my first attempt at this article.  If it seems disjointed please forgive me and know more will come.)

Redeemed Point

Redeemed Point started as a concept many years ago.  I was one of those people that fell in love with computer’s from the very beginning.  As a young boy I would spend hours using our family Tandy TRS 80 III Computer.  I would buy BYTE Magazine and slowly input the code in the back to test out programming.  I loved to see how things worked and always believed that computers would be the future.

No one can argue the place of computers in our world today, more specifically the use of the Internet as the greatest communication tool available to us.  How else can you get a message out to people around the world, all at the same time, for such a minimal cost? 

Henry Blackaby’s study, Experiencing God, as well as Rick Warrens Purpose Driven Church/Life, both speak about finding where God is working and joining him there.  I love the illustration that Rick uses in the opening chapters of Purpose Driven Church.  He says that trying to “start” things yourself is like riding a surfboard out into a flat ocean only to beat the water with your own arms trying to create a wave. When what we should do is paddle out and look for a wave that God has already set in motion, position ourselves into that wave and ride baby ride!

We see the wave that God has created, its called the internet and social media.  We need to do what we can as God’s people to join him where he is working.  One of the more popular places on the net is Facebook.  Facebook provides tools for people to get in touch with others from around the world.  It is amazing how many people are turning to sites like this to reconnect with friends from the past that may have moved on to some other location or country.

So some people ask, “Why start a church that uses the Internet as a means to reach out?”  Here is why, and mind you these are just statistics from one site:

  • More than 200 million active users
  • More than 100 million users log on to Facebook at least once each day
  • More than two-thirds of Facebook users are outside of college
  • The fastest growing demographic is those 35 years old and older

Facebook Statistics

We have an opportunity to touch millions of lives on any given day by simply logging into a website and checking up on friends and family.  We need to live out our lives online for Christ as we do away from the keyboard.  We can not ignore a mission field this large any longer.  Matthew 28:18-20.

Redeemed Point will use social media like Facebook, Twitter, Streaming Video and more, along with a local group of believers working behind the scenes to perform its mission.  We are excited about joining God where He is working and can’t wait to see the harvest.  Email onpoint@redeemedpoint.com if you would like more information or have suggestions or questions.

Who are we seeking?

Mike and I had the neatest experience on Monday.  We attended a live worship service online.  It was through Lifechurch, a church that has this awesome ministry on the internet.  In addition to watching the streaming service with people from at least 26 different countries, we were in a live chat room.  For someone like me who is very visually stimulated, the chat room was almost too much.  Having two things happening simultaneously on my screen was a little overwhelming.  Since I find myself compelled to read every post entered into the chat, I was getting pretty distracted from the worship and sermon.  There was also an option to open a tab of sermon notes in which you can see the sermon notes and add your own comments.  You can then email these to yourself to review later.  Next time, I think I will try to just have that tab open rather than the live chat.  Anyway, it was the most unique “church” experience I have had in a long time.  The sermon was great, and the extent of the spread of His Word was breathtaking.  I would encourage you to check it out at lifechurch.tv sometime.

While I was having a lot of trouble following all of the sermon, being in the chat room was an eye-opening experience for me.  God used it to expose some of my own prejudice.  While we were in the chat room, two people entered who were what is often called griefing.  They kept making comments like “There is no God” just to get a reaction.  Most people were ignoring them, but the room administrators were gently counseling them.  My first gut reaction to these two individuals was to wonder why the admins did not just ban them from the room.  After all, they were disturbing my ability to listen to the message.  After a few minutes, one of them left on his own, but the other stayed in the room.  He was quiet for a little while.  Near the end of the sermon, he began to make comments again.  The admins once again responded kindly, trying to point out to him the existence of God.  He began to ask questions like, “Where was God in 9/11?,  Where was God during Katrina?, etc.”  Then Mike chimed in, reminding us all that those things were a result of sin in the world, not a lack of God’s presence.  While the “griefer” (for lack of a better word at this point) was still very caustic in his statements, he was beginning to be more open to the answers being given him by the others in the room.  It was becoming clear to me that in his own way, he was seeking God, just unaware how to find Him.

Now for the part about my own prejudice.  At first, this guy was really bugging me.  I was getting irritated by his comments and the admin’s apparent lack of getting rid of him.  After all, he was disturbing my worship experience.  Then God gently reminded me that he came to seek and to save those who were lost.  As I thought about what had happened, I realized that, like many in our churches today, I am not always as accepting of the unsaved as I should be.  We want our churches to be filled with God-filled, righteous, Christians.  Yes, we need those in our churches.  But our job is not to sit around parsing the Scripture with others just like us.  We need this to keep growing in our own faith, but our job is to take the message of God’s love to those who have never heard.  Jesus’ ministry was not to the “church people”.  His ministry was to the sick, the dying, the untouchables.  He spent his time with thieves, prostitutes, the unwanted and untouched.  When those around him had accepted his message, he did not tell them to stay with him to learn more.  He sent them out to the surrounding countryside to preach the gospel.  I was very convicted of my own want to just be around those like me.  I don’t always want “those people” in my life.  They make me uncomfortable.  But isn’t it our job to go to them to share the love of God with them?  If the admins had kicked the griefer out of the room, his perception that Christians are haughty and rude would have been solidified.  Instead, he felt the love of God through the actions of those he was criticizing.

Perhaps this is the problem in many of our churches today.  We have a prejudice towards those who don’t know God.  We say that we want our churches to grow, but do we want to invite the untouchables in, those who so desperately need to hear about salvation?  Perhaps, we need to remember that the Great Physician came for the sick, not the healthy.  We need to remember where we once were, dying in our own sin.  I think this is harder for those like me who were raised in church.  Jesus came to seek out and to save those who are lost.  Maybe we (I) need to so some seeking out of the lost ourselves.

Things Id Like to See.

After my long post I wanted to jot some notes about what I would like to see a church be/do.

The most important thing is to be “relevant”

Random thoughts.

  • Worship that fits the hearers
  • Ways to communicate outside of a “weekly meeting”
    • Web
    • Podcast
    • Vidcast
    • Twitter
    • Forums
    • SMS messaging
    • Online groups
    • Games (You know i had to get WoW in here someplace right?  :)   )
  • Non threatning leadership structure.
    • Co-leaders
    • Ownership (don’t read to much into that, still needs some developing)
  • Not confined to a “traditional” time frame.
    • Have meetings when those who come can attend, not necessarily based on a old tried and true time frame.  Although not tossing out the old Sunday morning schedule either.  Being flexible to meet the needs of families that are very busy
    • Use online as a way to meet for those who are unable to meet regularly in a physical time and place.  But keeping them involved as much as possible.

More to come as I think about it. PLEASE leave a comment with your idea!  I want your feedback.  What would you like to see in a church?